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- INFO-MAC Digest Sunday, 17 Jan 1988 Volume 6 : Issue 3
-
- Today's Topics:
- Stuffit User Interface Not Well Done
- Sound Mover problems
- What screen saver with Multi-Finder??
- Milo Comments
- A reverse Heisenbug: it's there only if you look for it
- Help wanted with a digitizer interface
- DNA and protein sequence analysis?
- flexible protein models
- Animation pkg for human movement
- CURVE FITTING SOFTWARE?
- Help Macs in Europe: Interferometry software needed!
- NEEDED, big HD utility
- File compare utility wanted
- Spelling Coach
- Plotters
- Graphic emulators
- SCSI upgrade advice needed
- DCA
- MS BASIC Editor Suggestions (Hello, Microsoft)
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-
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-
- Date: Tue 22 Dec 87 13:13:15-PST
- From: A. E. Siegman <SIEGMAN@Sierra.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Stuffit User Interface Not Well Done
-
- While the debate still rages over Stuffit versus Packit (though the issue
- seems to be pretty well settled in favor of Stuffit), someone should point
- out that the interface which Stuffit presents to the user is pretty poor:
- Overly complicated windows that give you a lot of information you don't
- need or want to know, inconsistent or poorly chosen commands and terms,
- confusing procedures. The program itself is fine, but the interface is
- not up to high-quality Mac standards.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 87 11:12:02 PST
- From: dhare@Sun.COM (Dwight Hare)
- Subject: Sound Mover problems
-
- I downloaded the Soundmover package (archived as
- <INFO-MAC>UTILITY-SOUNDMOVER-PACKAGE.HQX) and tried it out on my Mac II.
- I recorded some music at 22K and converted the soundcap file into a
- snd resource using Sound->snd but Sound Mover insisted on playing the
- snd at 11K.
-
- Then, after sampling at 11K and creating a snd resource, I pasted it
- into StartupSndInit and moved it into the system folder. When I rebooted
- I got a horrible death. I don't use any non standard inits.
-
- I've thrown it away and will continue to use the Bong swci resource for
- Soundcap to create snd resources and use resedit to move them around.
- I don't really need a sound at init time. I was very disappointed with
- the quality of this package.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Dec 87 23:04:00 EST
- From: <bouldin@ceee-sed.arpa>
- Subject: What screen saver with Multi-Finder??
-
- I have gotten real used to the "Stars" screen saver (you know, the one that
- shows a star field that you move through, a la USS Enterprise), but it doesn't
- work with MF. Anyone have a newer version (I have 1.8) or a suggested
- replacement?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 88 23:17:12 -0500 (EST)
- From: John Salmento <ziggy+@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Subject: Milo Comments
-
- Hi,
- I'm trying to gather what other people think of Milo for the author Ron
- Avitzur. For those who don't know, Milo is a symbolic math manipulation
- program. This program is allows you to very easily perform algebra
- on equations without making stupid mistakes, like change signs or dropping
- terms. It can solve simple equations and take derivatives; however, it
- isn't smart like Macsyma, so it doesn't solve the equations for you. It also
- has other features for creating graphs of equations and combining text
- and equations in one file. A beta version can be acquired off of the topse
- Mac directory, mac binaries on andrew, and sumex-aim. One thing
- this version doesn't work properly with system 4.2.
-
- Ron wants to publish this program with complete documentation, so he's
- interested in bug reports, and comments. He wants especially wants to
- know what people think its worth. He's also very interested in site licensing
- this software at colleges, so if anyone is interested they should contact him
- directly. His email address is avitzur@portia.stanford.edu.
-
- John Salmento
- ziggy@andrew or js04@te
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jan 88 10:05:35 PST
- From: coherent!dplatt@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Dave Platt)
- Subject: A reverse Heisenbug: it's there only if you look for it
-
- Originally posted to RISKS-DIGEST:
-
- I've encountered a marvelous Heisenbug (a bug whose behavior changes when
- you look for it) involving TOPS Spool and MultiFinder. Yesterday, I
- installed MultiFinder on one of the Mac SE systems here at work. After
- rebooting, I found that TOPS Spool worked fine when the system was booted in
- Finder mode, but behaved erratically when the system was booted in
- MultiFinder mode. The primary symptom I saw was that TOPS Spool would spool
- the file to disk, but would not print it. The status display would
- indicated "Waiting; source: AppleTalk", and the printer's yellow status
- light would double-blink (indicating that the printer was waiting for data
- to be sent over AppleTalk). This wouldn't always occur, and didn't always
- occur at the same point in a file. I tried spooling one file several times,
- and the copies seemed to exhibit different behavior.
-
- Finally, I noticed one critical clue: if I had turned "Print while I work"
- off, and then opened the TOPS Spool d/a and turned it back on, the spooler
- would not begin transmitting the file until I closed the desk accessory.
- Printing would then begin, and would continue to work properly until I opened
- the desk accessory again... at which point the current print job would hang!
-
- So... hmmm... using the TOPS Spool desk accessory under MultiFinder causes the
- background printing task to stop working, but using exactly the same desk
- accessory, System, drivers, etc. works just fine if the system is booted under
- the Finder. What's the difference? Well, under MultiFinder, desk accessories
- are normally opened by a mini-application called DA Handler, so that they won't
- go away if you "Quit" from your current application. I tried opening TOPS
- Spool while holding down the Option key, which forces the desk accessory to run
- in the current application's context... and, lo and behold, background printing
- kept working! Apparently, the TOPS Spool desk accessory interferes with the
- background-printing task if it's run under DA Handler, but not if it's run
- under the current application (Finder, in my case).
-
- So... this is really a reverse Heisenbug, of sorts... the software works unless
- you look to see whether it's working, at which point it stops working!
-
- Dave Platt
- UUCP: ...!{ames,sun,uunet}!coherent!dplatt
- Internet: coherent!dplatt@ames.arpa, ...@sun.com, ...@uunet.uu.net
-
- [For those of you who weren't in on the original flurry of Heisenbugs,
- see RISKS-4.30 through 36, and a few subsequent issues. PGN]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 87 15:09:59 GMT
- From: PHY6JEM%CMS1.UCS.LEEDS.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu
- Subject: Help wanted with a digitizer interface
-
- phy6jem@uk.ac.leeds.ucs.cms1 | JANET |
- phy6jem%uk.ac.leeds.ucs.cms1@ukacrl |BITNET/EARN|
- phy6jem%cms1.ucs.leeds@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk | ARPA |
- nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk!leeds.ucs.cms1!phy6jem | UUCP |
- star::"phy6jem%leeds.ucs.cms1@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk" | SPAN |
-
- Haverah Park Group, Physics Department, University of Leeds, LEEDS, LS29JT, UK
-
-
-
- HELP WANTED WITH A DIGITIZER INTERFACE
-
- We have a Summagraphics ID-1-CTR-2020 digitizing tablet which is no longer
- needed for its original application.
- We would therefore like to interface it to our (brand new) Mac SE.
- It has an RS-232 output which gives XY coordinates and
- button up/down information in a well understood format. Therefore it shouldn't
- be too difficult to wire it up to the Apple Desktop Bus.
- The difficult bit looks like the software; how do you make the Mac read from
- the digitizer rather than from the mouse? This must be done in a way that is
- transparent to all applications.
- If anyone has solved this problem or knows where to find the solution,
- either for another digitizer or for any other input hardware, we'd love to know.
- We are fairly experienced programmers (mainframe, micro), our language of
- choice for this project is Lightspeed C but we can cope with most anything else.
- If anything of general applicability appears, we'll post it to the net.
-
- John McMillan, Haverah Park Group.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 88 23:06:40 EST
- From: David_Detlefsen@ub.cc.umich.edu
- Subject: DNA and protein sequence analysis?
-
- Has anyone seen any public domain or shareware programs for DNA
- and protein sequence analysis for the Macintosh? I seem to run
- into a lot of these for MS-DOS machines but it would be nice if
- I could do all of this on my Macintosh at home. Shareware packages
- for the PC include DM5 (David Mount from Arizona or Arizona State)
- and something called Menu from Australia. Basically these programs
- allow you to match patterns in a DNA sequence (search for restriction
- sites), translate, edit protein or DNA sequences, do homology searches
- and more. Some of the more elaborate programs search for secondary
- structures that may play a regulatory role.
- There is at least one commercially available program called DNA
- inspector. It is expensive ($300) and I've heard that its copy
- protection scheme is some form of data mutalation (maybe I should
- say mutation).
- Any advice would be greatly appreciated
- Dave Detlefsen
- Chemistry Department
- University of Michigan
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun 10 Jan 88 14:42:05-PST
- From: Chuck Gasser <MNS.GASSER@BIONET-20.ARPA>
- Subject: flexible protein models
-
- I am looking for a program for which the Macintosh would be an ideal
- environment. Biochemists commonly represent proteins in a flexible linear
- array known as "beads on a string". This representation allows regions
- that are known to be proximal to be put close together and allows clear
- representation of disulfide bonds. What we want is a program that allows
- for generation and simple/flexible editing of such pictures on the Mac.
- Such things as being able to drag a part of the string and have the rest
- follow along, maintaining bends from proline residues, etc. would be a part
- of such a program. If anyone has seen/heard of a program like this please
- send me any information that you can either by Email or regular mail, or
- call me collect at:
-
- (314)536-1150
-
- Thanks in advance,
- Chuck Gasser
- Plant Molecular Biology
- Monsanto Company
- St. Louis, MO
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 10 Jan 88 12:24:36 JST
- From: shmuel browns <shmuli%humus.huji.ac.il@RELAY.CS.NET>
- Subject: Animation pkg for human movement
-
- One of the professors in the Computer Science department is interested in an
- animation package either for the Macintosh or IBM PC that lets you show human
- movement. He was very impressed with the animation in MacGolf - does anyone
- know what they used?
-
- Please e-mail responses to me and I'll summarize to the net.
- Thank you.
-
- Shmuel
-
- E-mail: shmuli%HUJINIX.BITNET
- shmuli@humus.huji.ac.il
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 88 13:36:04 SET
- From: Norbert Mueller <K360171%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
- Subject: CURVE FITTING SOFTWARE?
-
- HELLO EVERYONE,
- I'M CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR A GOOD CURVE FITTING SOFTWARE OUR DEPT. WANTS
- TO ACQUIRE, THE USUAL OPTIONS (EXPONENTIAL, LOG, POLYNOMIAL...) ARE NOT
- SUFFICIENT. WE WANT TO FIT EXPERIMENTAL DATA TO ARBITRARY USER DEFINABLE
- FUNCTIONS. HAS ANYBODY HEARD OF SUCH A PROGRAM FOR THE MAC OR EVEN WORKE
- WITH IT?
- I REMEMBER A PROGRAM ON A CDC MAINFRAME I USED TO WORK ON, WHERE YOU COULD
- LINK THE COMILEDTARGET FUNCTION (CODED IN FORTRAN)AT RUNTIME...
- MAYBE THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT LIKE TO WRITE SUCH A THING FOR THE MAC (NOT
- NECESSARILY IN FORTRAN), WHERE FUNCTIONS MIGHT BE ADDED AS RESOURCES.
-
- THANKS IN ADVANCE
- FOR ANSWERING
-
- NORBERT MUELLER
- INSTITUTE OF CHEMISTRY
- JOHANNES KEPLER UNIVERSITY
- A-4040 LINZ
- AUSTRIA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu 7 Jan 88 07:12:30-PDT
- From: Elliot Bennett <ELLIOT@STAR.STANFORD.EDU>
- Subject: Help Macs in Europe: Interferometry software needed!
-
- Help save me from the Dreaded IBM!
-
- I am currently working at DFVLR (sort of W. Germany's NASA), and we have
- a holographic experiment planned for the D2 SpaceLab mission, and I'm
- writing a program on my own mac SE to operate this experiment remotely.
- The reason I have to use MY Mac is that this place is 95% IBM and 5% Atari
- and zero Macs. I'm attempting to introduce the Mac here, but to clinch
- a purchase I need some very specific software, which I'm hoping someone
- in net-land will know about.
-
- The basic need is to perform analyses on interferograms. I plan to use
- Thunderscan to digitize these into the Mac as MacPaint files.
- What I need is a program that can read such files, integrate across grey
- scales, and determine either the Temperature or density (one is supplied,
- one is calculated). Typical inputs include: cell length, refractive index
- of the medium being investigated, wavelength of the laser, and the
- existing geometry (Rectangular or cylindrical; with or without a diffuser;
- phase shift, and so on).
-
- We are willing to pay $ for such software, but if it doesn't exist,
- I'm going to have to write such a program myself - something I'm not
- exactly looking forward to.
-
- So, if you'ld like to further the cause of Macintosh in W. Germany, I would
- be very grateful for any information leading to such software. Please
- reply to the address below.
-
- Much Thanx in Advance,
- Elliot
-
- Elliot@STAR.STANFORD.EDU
-
-
- ** I have no relation to anyone but myself, and then only rarely.
- ** So also stand my opinions.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 87 07:55:30 IST
- From: Ami Zakai <RPR1ZAK%TECHNION.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
- Subject: NEEDED, big HD utility
-
- *** URGENT ****
- I need a formatter and installer for CDC WERN HD for Mac II 92MB & 150MB.
- Please send reply direct to RAFI@BGUVM or to RPR1ZAK@TECHNION.BITNET
- I know there are some of those floating around so if you have any idea
- where to get them I would realy appriciate a note.
-
- thanx
-
- --Zak
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 JAN 88 20:02-N
- From: CZYCHI%CSGHSG52.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
- Subject: File compare utility wanted
-
- Hello,
-
- for some time now, I'm looking for a file or disk compare program. Do I
- have at least found something where big blue is a step ahead?
- Furthermore I could need (and some friends of mine as well) an init or a
- cdev which automatically converts the german umlauts and the german ss into
- ae, oe, ue and ss. This is peticular for the use with a terminal emulator,
- therefore one should be able to turn that on and off (Like Smart Quote
- Init). Oh no, I am not buying QuicKeys for that reason!
- Thanks a lot.
-
- Gary
-
-
- Gary T. Czychi University of St.Gallen
-
- EARN%"CZYCHI@CSGHSG53"
- ==: "CZYCHI%CSGHSG53.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu"
-
- Tel.: --41 / 71 / 27 52 68
- --49 / 211 / 46 01 23
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 88 15:40:23 EST
- From: Steve Buyske <ST401266%BROWNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
- Subject: Spelling Coach
-
- Does anyone have experience with or knowledge of
- Deneba's Spelling Coach or Coach Professional?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 87 16:10:29 cst
- From: wucs1!wucfua!rexa@uunet.uu.net (Rex Alan Hill)
- Subject: Plotters
-
- Dear info-mac,
- I am looking for information about HP E-size plotters. More
- specifically, I would like to find some information about hooking a Mac
- (SE/Plus/MacII) to the plotter. I would also like to correspond with
- someone about EZ Draft, MGMS, MiniCad or Space Edit (and using these with
- the HP). Thanks.
- Rexford A. Hill
- Washington University ONC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri 8 Jan 88 06:01:33-PST
- From: Dieter Schifferli <EBEACHEY.SCHIFFERLI@BIONET-20.ARPA>
- Subject: Graphic emulators
-
- I would be interested to know the advantages of a Tektronix 4105 versus a
- Tektronix 4014 graphics emulation program ( Versaterm Pro / Versaterm).
- I am interested in using one of these programs for the DDMATRIX program of
- BIONET and different programs of the GENETICS COMPUTER GROUP (University
- of Wisconsin). Thanks for any help. Dieter.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 08 Jan 88 12:24:35 -0800
- From: Mark Nagel <nagel@ICS.UCI.EDU>
- Subject: SCSI upgrade advice needed
-
- I am looking forward to finally getting a hard drive for my 512e soon and
- I was hoping someone could help me out in with information on SCSI port
- upgrades. I have already installed a Dove 2M upgrade on the motherboard,
- so my main concern is how difficult is it to install a SCSI port now?
- Specifically, do I need to get Dove's SCSI port because it "fits" better
- or can I just install any old port few if any problems?
-
- Please respond via email and I will summarize if enough responses come in.
-
- Thanks!
-
- Mark Nagel
- Department of Information and Computer Science
- University of California, Irvine
-
- nagel%bonnie@ics.uci.edu (ARPA)
- {sdcsvax|ucbvax}!ucivax!bonnie!nagel (UUCP)
-
- "If George Washington had given up at Valley Forge, we'd all be speaking
- *English* today!" -- Balki
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 27 Dec 87 17:31:57 EST
- From: "James H. Coombs" <JAZBO%BROWNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
- Subject: DCA
-
- I saw your query in an Info-MAC digest. We dicusss DCA briefly in our
- article on "Markup Systems" in the November 1987 *Communications of the
- ACM*. That should give you a sense of what DCA is good for and what it
- is not good for. Basically, it retains formatting information only, so
- you can forget about style sheets. Above all, the article argues for
- descriptive markup---which eliminates the compatibility problems that you
- are experiencing. Hang it on your management's door. Make them aware of
- the problems and of the appropriate solutions. Also, contact Microsoft and
- WordPerfect and tell them to quit messing around with obsolete forms of
- markup. (Things won't improve until consumers convince developers that
- descriptive markup is a priority.) Finally, SoftQuad is coming out with an
- SGML text processor for the Mac, and that might help solve your problems.
-
- Good luck. --Jim
-
- Dr. James H. Coombs
- Software Engineer, Research
- Institute for Research in Information and Scholarship (IRIS)
- Brown University
- jazbo@brownvm.bitnet
- Acknowledge-To: <JAZBO@BROWNVM>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu 7 Jan 88 18:37:16-PST
- From: A. E. Siegman <SIEGMAN@Sierra.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: MS BASIC Editor Suggestions (Hello, Microsoft)
-
- The editor that comes with Microsoft's BASIC 3.0 Interpreter at the minute
- is fairly nice: The transition from editing to program execution and back
- is fast and convenient; having Basic reserved words automatically
- highlighted in boldface type is very helpful; and the Search function is
- convenient and easy to use. Having the program automatically recapitalize
- every occurrence of a variable name ("PowerLevel") or label the same way
- (whichever way you last enter it), is neat.
-
- The biggest weakness is that the Search function slows waaaaayyyy down,
- practically to a stop, all of sudden it seems, as soon as the program length
- exceeds something like a couple of pages.
-
- What would I and other local users most like to have (besides having this
- speed problem fixed)? Not pretty-printing (nice but not essential), not
- Search-and-Replace (can do that pretty effectively with Search-and Paste),
- not other secondary editing gimmicks. For writing structured, truly Mac-ish
- programs we'd most like an "outliner" capability, under which all merely
- linear code segments, all merely number-calculating lines, all comments,
- etc. would vanish (or be replaced by a line with three dots, or something),
- and only the control structure of the program (Labels, GOSUBs, RETURNs,
- etc.) would remain visible. One could then move around through the control
- skeleton, instantaneously bringing any of the hidden code segments back to
- view for editing when you needed to.
-
- I suppose this is what outliner programs already do (haven't used one as
- yet). Any Mac outliner programs around that could also be taught to
- automatically boldface a specific set of control words whenever they were
- typed in?
-
- ------------------------------
-
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